Why traditional robotics data collection is obsolete and what replaces it

Why traditional robotics data collection is obsolete and what replaces it

Episode 242 of The Robot Report Podcast features Eric Chan, co-founder and chief scientist of Rhoda AI. He describes the fundamental problem facing physical AI companies today: training data for robotics.

Rhoda AI is pioneering the use of a direct video action (DVA) model, which uses internet video data to train intelligent robots. This innovative approach allows for efficient data use and the ability to tackle complex tasks with minimal training.

What do you do when you have a shortage of data? Chan shares insights into the challenges of data collection, the potential for zero-shot learning, and the future of robot deployment in real-world applications.

Below is the decanting video mentioned in the interview of a dual-armed robot using a policy driven by a DVA:


Podcast guest: Eric Chan

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Eric Chan, co-founder and chief scientist at Rhoda AI. | Credit: Rhoda AI

Eric Chan is co-founder and chief scientist at Rhoda AI, where he leads research on foundation models for physical AI.

He holds a Ph.D. in Computer Science from Stanford and has held research roles at NVIDIA, Google, NASA, and WorldLabs.

At Rhoda AI, Chen is focused on building systems that enable robots to learn from video and operate reliably in production environments.

Palo Alto, Calif.-based Rhoda AI emerged from stealth in March 2026.

This blog post explains what a direct video action model is.


Show timeline

  • 4:27 – News of the week
  • 18:04 – Eric Chan, co-founder and chief scientist at Rhoda.AI

News of the week

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